consisting of Greg Ginn(guitar, bass, drum machine, etc.) and vocalist/rapper Richard Ray, this is pretty difficult stuff to listen to, and i do not mean in a challenging way. for those looking for latter day Greg Ginn guitar pyrotechics, this is not the the place to look. most songs are dense, messy, and jumbled. Read more on Last.fm. User-contributed text is available under the Creative Commons By-SA License; additional terms may apply.